Comments on: Science vs Faith http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/ Authentic Frontier Gibberish Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: vidde http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83530 vidde Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:35:31 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83530 You can't have a conversation with anyone you feel such hatred for. It will only end in tragedy. What we really need them to do is to let us live our lives as we want, and to do that, we must first understand why they don't want to do that. I have faith that every human being has explained their behavior in some way, at least to themselves. To understand an other persons reasons is getting somewhere. Hating is not. You can’t have a conversation with anyone you feel such hatred for. It will only end in tragedy.

What we really need them to do is to let us live our lives as we want, and to do that, we must first understand why they don’t want to do that.

I have faith that every human being has explained their behavior in some way, at least to themselves. To understand an other persons reasons is getting somewhere.

Hating is not.

]]> By: isecore http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83529 isecore Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:23:44 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83529 Vidde: yes, that's the most noble solution. But the problem is that fundamentalists and most christians aren't as tolerant to other people views as we are. They expect everyone to accept them, yet most of them spew hate and fear in every direction. Coexisting with people who don't want to coexist with anyone except other people who share exactly the same beliefs and social system as them won't lead anywhere. I understand most christian fundamentalists quite well - they're narrowminded self-delusional hatemongers who follow an obsolete faith. The problem is that they don't understand it, and are more than willing to force that obsolete faith on others regardless of what they believe or not. Vidde: yes, that’s the most noble solution. But the problem is that fundamentalists and most christians aren’t as tolerant to other people views as we are. They expect everyone to accept them, yet most of them spew hate and fear in every direction.

Coexisting with people who don’t want to coexist with anyone except other people who share exactly the same beliefs and social system as them won’t lead anywhere.

I understand most christian fundamentalists quite well - they’re narrowminded self-delusional hatemongers who follow an obsolete faith. The problem is that they don’t understand it, and are more than willing to force that obsolete faith on others regardless of what they believe or not.

]]> By: vidde http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83527 vidde Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:51:37 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83527 Well yes. That's all true. I just wanted everyone to stop and think about that they probably find us as strange as we find them. They are convinced their ways are the right ones just as we are. To be able to reach any kind of constructive solution together with them (coexisting) we must first understand them. To have a discussion without understanding is only going to make the people involved angry. Well yes. That’s all true. I just wanted everyone to stop and think about that they probably find us as strange as we find them. They are convinced their ways are the right ones just as we are.

To be able to reach any kind of constructive solution together with them (coexisting) we must first understand them.

To have a discussion without understanding is only going to make the people involved angry.

]]> By: MrArboc http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83520 MrArboc Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:39:32 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83520 Isecore: Absolutely right. Take creationists as an example, they spend a lot of time trying to find holes in the theory of evolution, and every time they think they find one they claim that it proves their belief. It's like saying that Gerorge W is *always* right because his opposition was wrong once... Isecore: Absolutely right. Take creationists as an example, they spend a lot of time trying to find holes in the theory of evolution, and every time they think they find one they claim that it proves their belief. It’s like saying that Gerorge W is *always* right because his opposition was wrong once…

]]> By: isecore http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83487 isecore Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:20:52 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83487 Religions do it all backwards. Rather than finding evidence and coming to a conclusion what that evidence means they prefer to find evidence that supports a pre-decided conclusion. Religions do it all backwards.

Rather than finding evidence and coming to a conclusion what that evidence means they prefer to find evidence that supports a pre-decided conclusion.

]]> By: vidde http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83480 vidde Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:22:52 +0000 http://blog.isecore.net/2007/10/09/science-vs-faith/#comment-83480 I don't believe in any all powerfull gods either... That would be scary, actually. But the reason religious people want us to prove things before they believe them is that they feel we claim to be able to. At least that is what I think. And the reason people can't just accept other peoples beliefsystem (science or religion) is that they feel it is a threat to them. They want to defend themselves and their way of life. Me, I'm not an atheist, but I still feel threatened by religious types claiming evolution didn't happen. I probably would feel a lot less threatened if I knew that my future children (if I ever have any) wouldn't get their heads filled with that nonsens... The other side probably feel the same way. I don’t believe in any all powerfull gods either… That would be scary, actually.

But the reason religious people want us to prove things before they believe them is that they feel we claim to be able to. At least that is what I think.

And the reason people can’t just accept other peoples beliefsystem (science or religion) is that they feel it is a threat to them. They want to defend themselves and their way of life.

Me, I’m not an atheist, but I still feel threatened by religious types claiming evolution didn’t happen. I probably would feel a lot less threatened if I knew that my future children (if I ever have any) wouldn’t get their heads filled with that nonsens…

The other side probably feel the same way.

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