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	<title>Comments on: Consoles VS PC</title>
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	<description>Authentic Frontier Gibberish</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mind</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119979</link>
		<dc:creator>Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe he was referring to "You’re just angry that you can’t download it and play it.". I know isecore personally and I know this is simply not true, and that may be reason he gets angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe he was referring to &#8220;You’re just angry that you can’t download it and play it.&#8221;. I know isecore personally and I know this is simply not true, and that may be reason he gets angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Quadrudos</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119970</link>
		<dc:creator>Quadrudos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Apparently I can’t voice an opinion without having every single person on the net jump on me to point out how wrong I am and how poorly I write stuff. All I wondered was if there was any good reason for games to be released so much later for the PC than consoles, and instead I find myself embroiled in some stupid flamewar about crap I have no interest in”

You did provide a challenge. You wanted to know why games where released later for the PC and you did get some valid theories from a bunch of people. There really are no right or wrong, just opinions. And mine doesn’t have to be any more true than yours.

But you wanted an discussion, and getting offenden when someone doesn’t share your opinion and putting your blog on hold won’t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Apparently I can’t voice an opinion without having every single person on the net jump on me to point out how wrong I am and how poorly I write stuff. All I wondered was if there was any good reason for games to be released so much later for the PC than consoles, and instead I find myself embroiled in some stupid flamewar about crap I have no interest in”</p>
<p>You did provide a challenge. You wanted to know why games where released later for the PC and you did get some valid theories from a bunch of people. There really are no right or wrong, just opinions. And mine doesn’t have to be any more true than yours.</p>
<p>But you wanted an discussion, and getting offenden when someone doesn’t share your opinion and putting your blog on hold won’t do.</p>
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		<title>By: isecore</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119966</link>
		<dc:creator>isecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever. Apparently I can't voice an opinion without having every single person on the net jump on me to point out how wrong I am and how poorly I write stuff. All I wondered was if there was any good reason for games to be released so much later for the PC than consoles, and instead I find myself embroiled in some stupid flamewar about crap I have no interest in, as well as being accused of all kinds of stupid things.

From now on I'm only going to write about flowers and weather, what I had for dinner and other neutral shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever. Apparently I can&#8217;t voice an opinion without having every single person on the net jump on me to point out how wrong I am and how poorly I write stuff. All I wondered was if there was any good reason for games to be released so much later for the PC than consoles, and instead I find myself embroiled in some stupid flamewar about crap I have no interest in, as well as being accused of all kinds of stupid things.</p>
<p>From now on I&#8217;m only going to write about flowers and weather, what I had for dinner and other neutral shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Quadrudos</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119965</link>
		<dc:creator>Quadrudos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The were primitive, clunky, rather expensive”

I don’t believe the NES was primitive. It was able to produce smooth-scrolling platform games in 1985 with Super Mario Bros, while the PC was able to do this first at the end of 1990 with Commander Keen.

The NES clunky? It was a while back i saw one in real life but I don’t believe they are that big. In this picture: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/miketurner1/Picture.jpg is doesn’t seem super-sized compared to a Gamecube (which is a very small machine).

Back in 1990, a NES had a price around $125 ( source: http://boards.ign.com/classic_console_gaming_general_board/b5138/2949349/p1/?6 ), not much compared to a ps3 ( $499 ).

“And now is why I’m going to wonder why us who prefer PC-gaming has to wait in favor of the consoles.
See, the original Xbox when it arrived back in 2001 was essentially just a PC in a more manageable case. It had a harddrive, it had essentially the same kind of CPU as in most budget-computers, it had a graphics circuit which was essentially a GeForce3, and it had a network card. The new 360 and PS3 are even more powerful, and are essentially computers in a neat package.”

Yes, the setup in a Xbox is similar to that of a PC. But it is ONE setup. The developers has the same CPU to work with, same amount of RAM, same Graphics Card and so on for every Xbox owner. There is not some Xboxes with AMD processors and some with Intel, some with different graphics card, some with unusual sound cards – which is the case with PC’s.

It all comes down to that there are only one or two variations of a setup to work with, not thousands.

It also seems more effective to release the game later for PC, when everyone who has worked on the console versions are done and can focus on the PC port. There must be huge cost savings not to have a team working only on the PC version.

And I do believe that if the game would be released for PC at the same time you wouldn’t buy it. You’re just angry that you can’t download it and play it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The were primitive, clunky, rather expensive”</p>
<p>I don’t believe the NES was primitive. It was able to produce smooth-scrolling platform games in 1985 with Super Mario Bros, while the PC was able to do this first at the end of 1990 with Commander Keen.</p>
<p>The NES clunky? It was a while back i saw one in real life but I don’t believe they are that big. In this picture: <a href="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/miketurner1/Picture.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/miketurner1/Picture.jpg</a> is doesn’t seem super-sized compared to a Gamecube (which is a very small machine).</p>
<p>Back in 1990, a NES had a price around $125 ( source: <a href="http://boards.ign.com/classic_console_gaming_general_board/b5138/2949349/p1/?6" rel="nofollow">http://boards.ign.com/classic_console_gaming_general_board/b5138/2949349/p1/?6</a> ), not much compared to a ps3 ( $499 ).</p>
<p>“And now is why I’m going to wonder why us who prefer PC-gaming has to wait in favor of the consoles.<br />
See, the original Xbox when it arrived back in 2001 was essentially just a PC in a more manageable case. It had a harddrive, it had essentially the same kind of CPU as in most budget-computers, it had a graphics circuit which was essentially a GeForce3, and it had a network card. The new 360 and PS3 are even more powerful, and are essentially computers in a neat package.”</p>
<p>Yes, the setup in a Xbox is similar to that of a PC. But it is ONE setup. The developers has the same CPU to work with, same amount of RAM, same Graphics Card and so on for every Xbox owner. There is not some Xboxes with AMD processors and some with Intel, some with different graphics card, some with unusual sound cards – which is the case with PC’s.</p>
<p>It all comes down to that there are only one or two variations of a setup to work with, not thousands.</p>
<p>It also seems more effective to release the game later for PC, when everyone who has worked on the console versions are done and can focus on the PC port. There must be huge cost savings not to have a team working only on the PC version.</p>
<p>And I do believe that if the game would be released for PC at the same time you wouldn’t buy it. You’re just angry that you can’t download it and play it.</p>
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		<title>By: isecore</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119963</link>
		<dc:creator>isecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 21:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we are all slaves (or supposed to be) under the corporations. You're completely free to choose whatever you want, as long as you choose something that a corporation will profit from. A sad society indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we are all slaves (or supposed to be) under the corporations. You&#8217;re completely free to choose whatever you want, as long as you choose something that a corporation will profit from. A sad society indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Styrbjörn</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119957</link>
		<dc:creator>Styrbjörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i=it

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		<title>By: Styrbjörn</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119955</link>
		<dc:creator>Styrbjörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An old Run DMC song comes to my mind: "Because its like that, and thats the way it is."

Sure you can question it all you want, but in the end of the day the game creators will release the games as they see fit (to maximize profits off course). The only thing you really can do is to avoid buying the console games, and buy the games when they eventually turn up to PC.

It´s simple economics really, and yes i sucks !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An old Run DMC song comes to my mind: &#8220;Because its like that, and thats the way it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure you can question it all you want, but in the end of the day the game creators will release the games as they see fit (to maximize profits off course). The only thing you really can do is to avoid buying the console games, and buy the games when they eventually turn up to PC.</p>
<p>It´s simple economics really, and yes i sucks !</p>
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		<title>By: isecore</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119949</link>
		<dc:creator>isecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Styrbjörn: well, of course the game-makers are in bed with the console-maker :) No big surprise there. In fact, some of the game-makers ARE also the console-makers. Microsoft owns a shitload of different game-producers, as do Sony.

Everything in order to make sure our money is funneled in the right direction.

Sure, I understand that to play the newest games you need to own the newest console. What I oppose is the fact that nobody ever questions it. Everyone just buys the console rather than wondering WHY something is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Styrbjörn: well, of course the game-makers are in bed with the console-maker <img src='http://blog.isecore.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> No big surprise there. In fact, some of the game-makers ARE also the console-makers. Microsoft owns a shitload of different game-producers, as do Sony.</p>
<p>Everything in order to make sure our money is funneled in the right direction.</p>
<p>Sure, I understand that to play the newest games you need to own the newest console. What I oppose is the fact that nobody ever questions it. Everyone just buys the console rather than wondering WHY something is.</p>
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		<title>By: Styrbjörn</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119947</link>
		<dc:creator>Styrbjörn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isecore as you said, consoles nowadays are nothing more but easy to use PCs in flashy cases. In the good ol days you had to buy a console to play the cool games. Simply because consoles technically were far ahead of PCs. And because PCs wasn't as common as today..

Fast forward to todays date, why should I buy a Console if PCs are so alike ? One of the reasons  (as always) is to be able to play all the cool games before the other guy.

So in my opinion this is one major thing that keeps the consoles alive.

In short: Console makers are in bed with the Game makes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isecore as you said, consoles nowadays are nothing more but easy to use PCs in flashy cases. In the good ol days you had to buy a console to play the cool games. Simply because consoles technically were far ahead of PCs. And because PCs wasn&#8217;t as common as today..</p>
<p>Fast forward to todays date, why should I buy a Console if PCs are so alike ? One of the reasons  (as always) is to be able to play all the cool games before the other guy.</p>
<p>So in my opinion this is one major thing that keeps the consoles alive.</p>
<p>In short: Console makers are in bed with the Game makes</p>
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		<title>By: Vidde</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2008/05/12/consoles-vs-pc/#comment-119454</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quito=guilty

=D</description>
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<p>=D</p>
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