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	<title>Comments on: Why Do Stock Coolers Suck?</title>
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		<title>By: Mind</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2010/03/02/why-do-stock-coolers-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20668</link>
		<dc:creator>Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German overengineering ftw!</description>
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		<title>By: isecore</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2010/03/02/why-do-stock-coolers-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20663</link>
		<dc:creator>isecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit that I don&#039;t have much experience with the newer coolers included with Intel-chips, but being the hacker that I am I still feel that it&#039;s wasteful to simply design something half-assed just because the chips are designed to tolerate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I don&#8217;t have much experience with the newer coolers included with Intel-chips, but being the hacker that I am I still feel that it&#8217;s wasteful to simply design something half-assed just because the chips are designed to tolerate it.</p>
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		<title>By: P4k3</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2010/03/02/why-do-stock-coolers-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20660</link>
		<dc:creator>P4k3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah ofcourse there are better coolers than the stock ones, but I think there is nothing to complain about when talking about the later intel boxed coolers. Works just fine if you aren&#039;t into overclocking and such</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah ofcourse there are better coolers than the stock ones, but I think there is nothing to complain about when talking about the later intel boxed coolers. Works just fine if you aren&#8217;t into overclocking and such</p>
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		<title>By: henka</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2010/03/02/why-do-stock-coolers-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20632</link>
		<dc:creator>henka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tbh, the stock coolers from intel, or more specificly the last 2 versions for c2d/c2q, are quite good. Atleast when you use a 4-pin connector on a compatible motherboard. The noise levels when not taxing the CPU are realy low, but at max speed the fans sure are noisy but are not something you would be bothered with if you play games. But they do their job and are &quot;free&quot;.

And cooling aside, most cpus are fine with staying at 60c permanently (for wich the intel coolers are designed for), the days with 90w+ TDP is past and most cpus are in the 50-65w range.

Consider a P4 using 25-50% more power (and even more for a P4D) and delivering less then 25% of the performance compared to a cheap C2D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tbh, the stock coolers from intel, or more specificly the last 2 versions for c2d/c2q, are quite good. Atleast when you use a 4-pin connector on a compatible motherboard. The noise levels when not taxing the CPU are realy low, but at max speed the fans sure are noisy but are not something you would be bothered with if you play games. But they do their job and are &#8220;free&#8221;.</p>
<p>And cooling aside, most cpus are fine with staying at 60c permanently (for wich the intel coolers are designed for), the days with 90w+ TDP is past and most cpus are in the 50-65w range.</p>
<p>Consider a P4 using 25-50% more power (and even more for a P4D) and delivering less then 25% of the performance compared to a cheap C2D.</p>
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		<title>By: isecore</title>
		<link>http://blog.isecore.net/2010/03/02/why-do-stock-coolers-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20594</link>
		<dc:creator>isecore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;m just picky about noise and cooling ;)

None the less, I can&#039;t remember any stock cooler that I&#039;ve used more than briefly until replaced with a third-party, much quieter and more efficient cooler.

I will also readily admit that there&#039;s tons of very crappy third-party coolers out there as well. Choosing a decent CPU-cooler is as much art as it is science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m just picky about noise and cooling <img src='http://blog.isecore.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>None the less, I can&#8217;t remember any stock cooler that I&#8217;ve used more than briefly until replaced with a third-party, much quieter and more efficient cooler.</p>
<p>I will also readily admit that there&#8217;s tons of very crappy third-party coolers out there as well. Choosing a decent CPU-cooler is as much art as it is science.</p>
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		<title>By: P4k3</title>
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		<dc:creator>P4k3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree, I have a stock cooler on my computer for my Intel C2D E6850 and you can&#039;t tell if its on or off if you are sitting ~3m away from it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree, I have a stock cooler on my computer for my Intel C2D E6850 and you can&#8217;t tell if its on or off if you are sitting ~3m away from it&#8230;</p>
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